Where to store typescripts ?
Hi, Where should typescript files be stored ? Is it possible to store them in user space, eg in a subdirectory of Luatex cache (when using luatex) ? Thanks in advance! Nicolas
luigi scarso wrote:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard
wrote: Hi,
Where should typescript files be stored ?
If you have minimals(-beta) try minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
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2009/6/4 luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard
wrote: Hi,
Where should typescript files be stored ?
If you have minimals(-beta) try minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
Hi Luigi, thanks for your answer. I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008. It is a system directory ; is it the only one ? Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work. Here's what I did: (assume TF is http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv ) 1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with \usetypescript[delicious] The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included. 2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced 3. ran mktexlsr, just in case 4. In the test document, removed the contents of TF and replaced it with \usetypescriptfile[type-exljibris] The compilation ran smoothly, I should say too smoothly, because I couldn't find any font-related error message, neither in the output, nor in the log file. And however, ConTeXt used lmodern fonts instead of the Delicious fonts. Cheers, Nicolas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Nicolas Girard
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Nicolas Girard <
nicolas.girard@nerim.net>
wrote:
Hi,
Where should typescript files be stored ?
If you have minimals(-beta) try minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user
Hi Luigi, thanks for your answer. I'm using the latest mkiv installed over texlive 2008. It is a system directory ; is it the only one ?
Anyway I couldn't get my typescript file to work. Here's what I did:
(assume TF is http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv )
1. put the contents of TF in a test document along with \usetypescript[delicious] The document compiled fine and the Delicious fonts were properly included.
2. copied TF in tex/context/user/ as adviced 3. ran mktexlsr, just in case
hmm try context --generate x Wolfgang maybe is better to add some instructions on usage at the end ... -- luigi
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Nicolas Girard
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
: hmm try context --generate
Tried that, and it didn't work.
Nicolas
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Did you put something like \usetypefile[delicious] or \usetypefile[exljbris]http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv before \usetypescript ? -- luigi
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 04.06.2009 um 16:00 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
: hmm try context --generate
Tried that, and it didn't work.
Dou you have also type-exljbris.tex?
why don't put an example of use at the end of the typescript ? -- luigi
Nicolas Girard schrieb:
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
: hmm try context --generate
Tried that, and it didn't work.
you can try mtxrun --script fonts --reload Best wishes, Peter
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Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway. Could you explain right from the start ? Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it. Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv Now, 1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even whatever.some_extension ? 2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ? 3. Assuming I properly install such http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv file, should I load it using \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris] or \usetypescriptfile[exljbris] ? 4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ? 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first copy them, either in tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user or in tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user right ? But then, what is it necessary to run ? - context --generate ? - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ? - both ? 6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even outputting any error message ? How to change this behaviour ? How to disable font substitution ? Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-) Cheers, Nicolas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard
Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway. Could you explain right from the start ?
Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it. Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
Now,
1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even whatever.some_extension ?
2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ?
3. Assuming I properly install such http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv file, should I load it using \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris] or \usetypescriptfile[exljbris] ?
4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ? 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first copy them, either in tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user or in tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user right ? But then, what is it necessary to run ? - context --generate ? - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ? - both ?
6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even outputting any error message ? How to change this behaviour ? How to disable font substitution ?
Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-) Cheers, Nicolas
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Here my example I have minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex and eventually context --generate %%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%% \starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular] [file:CharisSILR][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic] [file:CharisSILI][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold] [file:CharisSILB][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] [file:CharisSILBI][features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [catalog] \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default] \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default] \stoptypescript %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%% \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif] \starttext \rm \input tufte \ss \input tufte \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%% $> context test.tex $>pdffonts test.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- --------- HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes 4 0 EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 -- luigi
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard
wrote: Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway. Could you explain right from the start ?
Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it. Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
Now,
1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even whatever.some_extension ?
2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ?
3. Assuming I properly install such http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv file, should I load it using \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris] or \usetypescriptfile[exljbris] ?
4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ? 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first copy them, either in tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user or in tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user right ? But then, what is it necessary to run ? - context --generate ? - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ? - both ?
6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even outputting any error message ? How to change this behaviour ? How to disable font substitution ?
Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-) Cheers, Nicolas
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Here my example I have minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
and eventually context --generate
%%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%% \starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular] [file:CharisSILR][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic] [file:CharisSILI][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold] [file:CharisSILB][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] [file:CharisSILBI][features=default] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps] [features=default] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [catalog] \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default] \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default] \stoptypescript %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%% \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif] \starttext \rm \input tufte \ss \input tufte \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
$> context test.tex $>pdffonts test.pdf
name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- --------- HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes 4 0 EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0
-- luigi
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Luigi, thanks very much for your efforts. Apparently, \usetypescriptfile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] doesn't work, whereas \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] does. Is there any reason for this ? Cheers, nicolas
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Nicolas Girard
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Nicolas Girard
wrote:
Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway. Could you explain right from the start ?
Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it. Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
Now,
1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even whatever.some_extension ?
2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both
allowed
?
3. Assuming I properly install such
http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv
file, should I load it using \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris] or \usetypescriptfile[exljbris] ?
4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ? 5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first copy them, either in tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user or in tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user right ? But then, what is it necessary to run ? - context --generate ? - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ? - both ?
6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even outputting any error message ? How to change this behaviour ? How to disable font substitution ?
Hopefully you forgive me for asking so many questions. Beware, answers will be recorded and published in the wiki ;-) Cheers, Nicolas
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Here my example I have minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
and eventually context --generate
%%type-catalog.tex %%%%%%%%% \starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [CharisSIL-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [CharisSIL-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [CharisSIL-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Regular] [file:CharisSILR][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Italic] [file:CharisSILI][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-Bold] [file:CharisSILB][features=default] \definefontsynonym [CharisSIL-BoldItalic] [file:CharisSILBI][features=default] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \setups[font:fallback:sans] \definefontsynonym [Sans] [Delicious-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [Delicious-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SansBold] [Delicious-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [Delicious-BoldItalic] \definefontsynonym [SansCaps] [Delicious-Caps] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans] [catalog] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Regular] [name:Delicious-Roman] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Italic] [name:Delicious-Italic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Bold] [name:Delicious-Bold] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-BoldItalic] [name:Delicious-BoldItalic] [features=default] \definefontsynonym [Delicious-Caps] [name:Delicious-SmallCaps] [features=default] \stoptypescript
\starttypescript [catalog] \definetypeface [catalog] [rm] [serif] [catalog] [default] \definetypeface [catalog] [ss] [sans] [catalog] [default] \stoptypescript %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%%%test.tex%%%%%%%%%%% \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] \setupbodyfont[catalog,8pt,serif] \starttext \rm \input tufte \ss \input tufte \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
$> context test.tex $>pdffonts test.pdf
name type emb sub uni object
ID
------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- ---
HMORXY+CharisSIL CID TrueType yes yes yes 4 0 EVRTHR+Delicious-Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0
-- luigi
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Luigi, thanks very much for your efforts.
Apparently, \usetypescriptfile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] doesn't work, whereas \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] does.
so does it work now for you ?
Is there any reason for this ?
sure...there is always a reason for things...but I don't remember :) Try to look into the source . -- luigi
2009/6/4 luigi scarso
so does it work now for you ?
Yes it does. Thanks everybody for your assistance. I've summarized what I understood from this thread here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#The_standard_way:_Typescripts Please have a look & correct my mistakes. Cheers, Nicolas
Am 04.06.2009 um 17:28 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
Apparently, \usetypescriptfile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] doesn't work, whereas \usetypefile[catalog] \usetypescript[catalog] does.
Is there any reason for this ?
The convention for typescript files is to save them as type-
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
I have minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or ~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context. In TeX Live ~/texmf should work. Mojca
2009/6/9 Mojca Miklavec
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 16:54, luigi scarso wrote:
I have minimals/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/type-catalog.tex
This is a bad place - there's a high risk that it will be removed or overwritten. Use texmf-local or texmf-project or texmf-fonts or ~/texmf or whatever else ... but better not texmf or texmf-context.
In TeX Live ~/texmf should work.
I Mojca, could you please update the wiki ( http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex#Installing_typescripts ) with these informations, or elaborate a little bit more ? I'm unsure about the precise directories you're advising (eg, texmf-fonts -> minimals/tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user/ ? ) Thanks in advance, Nicolas
Am 04.06.2009 um 16:44 schrieb Nicolas Girard:
Wow. Now, I'm lost -- and i still can't make it work anyway. Could you explain right from the start ?
Let's assume (as it is the case on my system) that the Delicious fonts are properly installed *and* the font database knows about it. Let's assume context = LuaTeX mkiv
Now,
1. if I want to create a typescript file supporting some XX fonts, do I need to name the file type-XX.some_extension, or is it only a convention and the file could also be named XX.some_extension or even whatever.some_extension ?
You can use <whatever>.tex for the name of the file but the convention is to name it type-<whatever>.tex.
2. what should be the extension for mkiv ? .mkiv ? .tex ? Are both allowed ?
You could write extra files to follow the different naming conventions for XeTeX and LuaTeX and name the files type-<whatever>.mkii/mkiv and load it in the type-<...>.tex file with \loadmarkfile{type-<...>}.
3. Assuming I properly install such http://bitbucket.org/wolfs/typescripts/src/7050bb6918bb/type-exljbris.mkiv file, should I load it using \usetypescriptfile[type-exljbris] or \usetypescriptfile[exljbris] ?
You load in your document type-exljbris.tex, the mkii/mkiv files are loaded from type-exljbris.tex dependend what engine you use and never by yourself.
4. What is the relationship between type-exljbris.mkiv and type-exljbris.tex ? Is type-exljbris.tex necessary when using mkiv ?
See above.
5. In order to install one or several typescript files, I should first copy them, either in tex/texmf-fonts/tex/context/user or in tex/texmf-project/tex/context/user right ?
Yes but I can create a package with all files you can the load from the modules section or with the minimals updater.
But then, what is it necessary to run ? - context --generate ? - mtxrun --script fonts --reload ? - both ?
When you saved the typescript files (tex + mkii/mkiv) in the above folder call 'context --generate' to let ConTeXt know there are new files available. The second command 'mtxrun --script fonts --reload' is used to let ConTeXt look for new fonts but this normally happen by default when you request a new font which is unknown to ConTeXt. The only case (I know at the moment) when you need the command is when you have install a new font which has the same name as a old one but a different file extension, did not happen very often a few fonts are available in TT and OT format.
6. How comes ConTeXt can silently substitute my fonts, without even outputting any error message ? How to change this behaviour ? How to disable font substitution ?
This happens only when the font you requested is not available or you try to load not existing typescripts. Wolfgang
2009/6/4 Wolfgang Schuster
Thanks Wolfgang ! I think pretty much everything you said should now be in http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_LuaTex , except for font substitution, which I find quite annoying. Anyway... Cheers, Nicolas
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