On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

Hi Mojca,

thank you for your answer. Now it actually works with these braces. I tried to do the same to get \hat working. Adding

\definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [mr] ["2]

(inside \startmahtcollection[default] \stopmathcollection) from math-fou.tex, however $\hat{f}$ now gives f without a hat. Do I missunderstand something?

However, it would be nice to get these math-fou.tex working.

I agree with that, but fonts have always been something that I hated most in TeX :) :) :) Does anyone else have an idea about that? I'm almost sure that the same problem happened to lucida or some other math font, but I don't remember which one.

I read from the LaTeX file fourier.sty the line \DeclareMathAccent{\hat}{\mathalpha}{operators}{2} but I'm not sure howto translate that into ConTeXt code, the naive

\definemathsymbol [hat] [alpha] [op] ["2]

did not work...

Try: \definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [tf] ["2] (I thought there was a \definemathaccent, but apparently I was wrong.)

Once this is fixed I can collect the needed files and send them to you(?) to get them included in the minimals if that is what people want (or make a package of it if that is better)

It's easiest to fetch the files directly from CTAN, the only question is how to best organize that: it would be nice to split some fonts, so that those who don't need extra fonts don't need to fetch them all. Mojca

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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However, it would be nice to get these math-fou.tex working.

\enablemathcollection[fou]

Adding \enablemathcollection[fou] to my document seem to enable the \lbrace and \rbrace and greek capital letters and probably more.

... but it should be automatic. Hans - what's the intended usage of \enablemathcollection? I mean - at what place should it be called?

Mojca

PS: minimal example:

\usetypescript[fourier][ec] \setupbodyfont[fourier,10pt] % \enablemathcollection[fou] \starttext \startformula \left\{a^{b^{c^{d^{e^{f^{g^{h}}}}}}}\right\} \stopformula \stoptext

With \definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [tf] ["2] instead of \definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [mr] ["2] the \hat command works in mkii (if I change \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Utopia-Regular] to \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [futr8r] in the type script) Mojca, does it work both in mkii and mkiv for you? Best regards, Mikael /Mikael

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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Mojca, does it work both in mkii and mkiv for you?

I only tested in mkii so far (I suspect that mkiv suffers from the lack of Utopia in proper format, so one would need to check typescripts).

Mojca

Thank you Mojca for your help! I'm also being a bit curious about the [tf] in \definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [tf] ["2] In math-fou.tex I see mi (Math Italics?) sy (Symbols?) ex (Extension?) mr (Math Roman?) 0) Are those names correct? 1) What does the [tf] stand for? Text Font? And what happened with the [mr]? 2) I guess all [mr] (10 or so) in math-fou.tex safely can be changed to [tf]? 3) Does anyone know what has to be done to get this working in mkiv? (I'll stick with mkii in the mean time) Best regards, Mikael

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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Mojca, does it work both in mkii and mkiv for you?

I only tested in mkii so far (I suspect that mkiv suffers from the lack of Utopia in proper format, so one would need to check typescripts).

Mojca

Thank you Mojca for your help!

I'm also being a bit curious about the [tf] in

\definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [tf] ["2]

In math-fou.tex I see mi (Math Italics?) sy (Symbols?) ex (Extension?) mr (Math Roman?)

2) I guess all [mr] (10 or so) in math-fou.tex safely can be changed to [tf]?

I would not just bet on it. I would try it first. If mr works, one should better leave mr, but I have no idea why it fails.

The reason \hat is defined using tf is because the math font does not have accents. This is the same thing with Euler, and last I checked (about a months ago), Euler accents work perfectly in MKIV. So, in principle it should work with Fourier also. I do not have time right now to look into it, maybe sometime next week.

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3) Does anyone know what has to be done to get this working in mkiv?

Hans, what's the strategy with non-unicode fonts, in particular Utopia? It doesn't come in otf format, but could still be used in both mkiv and XeTeX. Is there some type-something.tex foreseen for such fonts?

Another possibility is to redistribute the fonts as otf. From what I understand from the license (http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/utopia/) it is ok to modify the fonts (ie change the format) as long as you do not call the modified font utopia, and remove all references to Adobe. Are there tools to convert type 1 to otf? Aditya

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Mikael Persson wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Mikael Persson wrote:

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Mojca, does it work both in mkii and mkiv for you?

I only tested in mkii so far (I suspect that mkiv suffers from the lack of Utopia in proper format, so one would need to check typescripts).

Mojca

Thank you Mojca for your help!

I'm also being a bit curious about the [tf] in

\definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [tf] ["2]

In math-fou.tex I see mi (Math Italics?) sy (Symbols?) ex (Extension?) mr (Math Roman?)

2) I guess all [mr] (10 or so) in math-fou.tex safely can be changed to [tf]?

I would not just bet on it. I would try it first. If mr works, one should better leave mr, but I have no idea why it fails.

The reason \hat is defined using tf is because the math font does not have accents. This is the same thing with Euler, and last I checked (about a months ago), Euler accents work perfectly in MKIV. So, in principle it should work with Fourier also.

I do not have time right now to look into it, maybe sometime next week.

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3) Does anyone know what has to be done to get this working in mkiv?

Hans, what's the strategy with non-unicode fonts, in particular Utopia? It doesn't come in otf format, but could still be used in both mkiv and XeTeX. Is there some type-something.tex foreseen for such fonts?

Another possibility is to redistribute the fonts as otf. From what I understand from the license (http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/utopia/) it is ok to modify the fonts (ie change the format) as long as you do not call the modified font utopia, and remove all references to Adobe. Are there tools to convert type 1 to otf?

Aditya

Thanks Mojca and Aditya for your help. I just found out that if I change

\definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Utopia-Regular] to \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [futr8t] in the typescript file, and define the math accents as:

\def\grave{\mathaccent"7000} \def\acute{\mathaccent"7001} \def\hat{\mathaccent"7002} \def\tilde{\mathaccent"7003} \def\ddot{\mathaccent"7004} \def\mathring{\mathaccent"7006} \def\check{\mathaccent"7007} \def\breve{\mathaccent"7008} \def\bar{\mathaccent"7009} \def\dot{\mathaccent"700A}

they all work (both in mkii and mkiv). Can someone explain how to convert these definitions to context versions, for example like \definemathsymbol [acute] [accent] [tf] ["1]?

Best regards, Mikael

I thought I tested this before, but \startmathcollection [fou] \definemathsymbol [acute] [accent] [mr] ["1] \definemathsymbol [grave] [accent] [mr] ["0] \definemathsymbol [ddot] [accent] [mr] ["4] \definemathsymbol [tilde] [accent] [mr] ["3] \definemathsymbol [bar] [accent] [mr] ["9] \definemathsymbol [breve] [accent] [mr] ["8] \definemathsymbol [check] [accent] [mr] ["7] \definemathsymbol [hat] [accent] [mr] ["2] \definemathsymbol [dot] [accent] [mr] ["A] \definemathsymbol [mathring] [accent] [mr] ["6] \stopmathcollection works as long as one has \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [futr8t] and not \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Utopia-Roman]% putr8a or \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [futr8r] or ... It thus seems that type-fou.tex does not need any changes. Below is a working type script: %%%%%%%%% type-fourier.tex \starttypescript [serif] [utopia] \setups[font:fallback:serif] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Utopia-Regular] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Utopia-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Utopia-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Utopia-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [utopia] \definefontsynonym [Utopia-Regular] [file:putr8a][features=default] \definefontsynonym [Utopia-Italic] [file:putri8a][features=default] \definefontsynonym [Utopia-Bold] [file:putb8a][features=default] \definefontsynonym [Utopia-BoldItalic] [file:putbi8a][features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [fourier] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [futr8t] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic] [futmii] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol] [futsy] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [fourier-mex] \loadmapfile[fourier.map] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [fourier,utopia] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [rm] [serif] [utopia] [default] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [ss] [sans] [modern] [default][rscale=1.07] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [tt] [mono] [modern] [default][rscale=1.07] \definetypeface [\typescriptone] [mm] [math] [fourier] [default][encoding=default] \usemathcollection[fou] \quittypescriptscanning \stoptypescript %%%%%%%%%%%%%% And a working test file: %%%%%%%% Test file \usetypescriptfile[type-fourier] \usetypescript[fourier][ec] \setupbodyfont[fourier] \enablemathcollection[fou] \starttext Test: acute $\acute{a}$ grave $\grave{a}$ ddot $\ddot{a}$ tilde $\tilde{a}$ bar $\bar{a}$ breve $\breve{a}$ check $\check{a}$ hat $\hat{a}$ dot $\dot{a}$ mathring $\mathring{a}$ widetilde $\widetilde{ab}$. \startformula \hat{f}(x)= \startcases \NC x \MC x>0\NR \NC -x \MC x<0\NR \stopcases \stopformula \stoptext %%%%%%% Could this \enablemathcollection[fou] go somewhere else? Best regards, Mikael