Hi, how can I set a "label" for a figure without \placefigure[][fig:...]{} for some "figures" I use strange macros -- and at those places I get errors when calling \placefigure BUT I'd like to check the page numbers of those places using \doifreferencefoundelse{fig:bild\the\bildnr}% and right now I get references > unknown reference '[][fig:bild5]' for those pictures... thanks -- and greetings from the DANTE meeting in Stralsund, Germany Harald PS: Hans -- we miss you so much!!! -- "I hope to die ___ _____ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.", 0--,| /OOOOOOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen. <_/ / /OOOOOOOOOOO\ \ \/OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO\ \ OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ koenig@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de ^^^^^ ^^^^^