Hi, now I have a new conTeXt, but tables remain tricky. A slight variation of the wiki example with horizontal lines gives unwanted vertical space: \starttext \placetable[here][tab:sample]{sample table}{\start \starttablehead \HL \VL command \VL meaning \VL\SR \HL \stoptablehead \starttabletail \HL \stoptabletail \starttables[|l|l|] \VL \tex{NC} \VL next column \VL\FR \VL \tex{HL} \VL horizontal line \VL\MR \VL \tex{VL} \VL vertical line \VL\MR \VL \tex{NR} \VL next row \VL\AR \HL \VL \tex{SR} \VL single row \VL\MR \VL \tex{FR} \VL first row \VL\MR \VL \tex{MR} \VL middle row \VL\MR \VL \tex{LR} \VL last row \VL\LR \stoptables \stop} \stoptext -- Gerhard Kugler Psychotherapeut http://www.psychotherapie-kugler.de