RE: [NTG-context] bib module: multiple bibs and alphabetical order

Hi Taco, Thnx for working on this! I am confused about a couple of things though...

===== Original Message From Taco Hoekwater =====

There is one bbl per article, but only one (global) list of references & publications, so, for now, your bbl files need to define bib items with unique keys. I hope this is workable for now?

In the examples I sent there was no global list. Are you saying that I need to 1. move my multiple bbl files into one global bbl file; 2. if one reference is used in more than one article, then that reference must be duplicated in the global bbl file but with a different key each time. That is, if [afghani60] is used in two articles, then I must do something like \startpublication[k=afghani60-i,... \startpublication[k=afghani60-ii,... in the global file. Is this right or am I not getting it?-)

On the project structure: I believe a project file should be pure virtual, so that: the components are the articles, the product is the journal issue, and the project is the journals entire lifespan.

Hmm, I have been treating each issue of the journal as a distinct project in itself. Maybe for the next volume I'll try the more abstract approach. But I don't understand how this issue affects the bib issue.

Such a structure would need a different solution from the one I have implemented now, so we may have to revisit this part of the module in a few weeks. Is that ok?

Ok, I appreciate all u've done up to now...

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2. Can t-bib extract the references and place them in alphabetical order, or do I have to still organize my bbl files alphabetically by hand (I really hope not->)? Automatic alphabetizing bbl file data in the output has been one of my major wishes for t-bib.

The current module cannot do this, because it is unfeasible to do sorting in TeX macros. I will investigate sorting through texutil or something similiar, but that will need more than a few days/weeks to implement, so definately will not be ready before tuesday.

That's ok, I have to work on the next issue right after the immediate (late) issue-)

Btw, if you use bibtex, then you can do

\setupbibtex[sort=title]

because then bibtex does the sorting for me. :-)

Does this mean that I have to create a global .bib file instead of a global .bbl file? Do I have to go back to bibtex syntax? I have have been creating bbl files by hand upto now... By the way: I have been using mswincontext.zip as my stand-alone TeX installation, and no longer update fpTeX, etc. Since t-bib is a part of ConTeXt now, does it not make sense that BibTeX also be included, at least until it is no longer needed? I'll test things shortly: Thnx for all your help! Best Idris ============================ Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523