Re: [NTG-context] \quotation

2 Nov 2007

      2007/11/2, Wolfgang Schuster :
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2007/11/1, Idris Samawi Hamid :
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Dear gang,
This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the
workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share
with others and an official solution would be better:
\starttext
\input knuth
\startquotation
\input knuth
\stopquotation
\input knuth
\stoptext
I. \start-\stopquotation surrounds the block quote in double-quotes
marks.
I don't know about other European languages but in English this is
redundant; I've hardly ever seen block quotes use dbl-quote marks.
We at least need a setup option to turn this off.
II. There should be some default whitespace between the block quote and
the surrounding text, just as \start-stopitemize has. Or at least this
should be configurable in the setups.
If these two are already there (not in the manual) then please let us
know
how to set this up. Otherwise could you add configuration options for
this?
FYI: Here is what I use
===========
\definestartstop
   [quote]
   [before={\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\blank[big]\noindenting},
     after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}]
===========
Best wishes
Idris
Hi Idris,
there is no perfect solution in ConTeXt because the \quotation and the
\start/stopquotation commands are defined with the same definition and it
is
not possible to disable the quote marks for the one and enable it for the
other,
but you can use ConTeXt's mechanism for nested quotations and redefine the
other one.
\setupdelimitedtext
  [quotation]
  [1]
  [left={\symbol[leftquotation]},
   right={\symbol[rightquotation]}]
\setupdelimitedtext
  [quotation]
  [2]
  [left={\symbol[leftquote]},
   right={\symbol[rightquote]}]
\setupdelimitedtext
  [quote]
  [location=margin, % paragraph
   left=,
   right=,
   before={\blank[big]},
   after={\blank[big]}]
This can also be written as

\setupdelimitedtext
  [quote]
  [location=margin, % paragraph
   left=,
   right=,
   spacebefore=big,
   %spaceafter=big, % spaceafter is spacebefore by default
  ]

\starttext
...
\input knuth
\quotation{I'm a quoteted text \quotation{within another quoteted text}
and back.}
\startquote
\input knuth
\stopquote
\input knuth
\stoptext
Wolfgang