[NTG-context] Re: Footnotes in margin? (HELP!)

Hi Willi, that's also what I experienced: the code works with very small footnotes. I am working now on a thesis with kind of normal equipment: Some hundred pages, about 900 footnotes with lots of them quite long (seems to be normal nowadays for art-historians). So what to do? Steffen Willi Egger wrote:

Hi Steffen,

I tried your code and indeed I am getting also half-empty pages.

I tried then the following: I replaced the dorecurse by

\input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \blank[1cm] \input knuth \mynote{knuth} \blank[1cm] \input ward \mynote{ward} \page

This fills pages and the \mynotes are placed in the margin.

However I played also with text in one of the \mynotes. As long as the text is short i.e. not longer than one width of the margin everything is o.k. Once the text becomes longer, the page on which the \mynote is placed shortens increasing with the length of the \mynote.

So there must be a reason which is beyond my knowledge for this behaviour.

Willi

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

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Hans,

I don't know what crazy stuff Idris is using this footnotes for, but for my case it went absolutely horrible: Almost every page gets half empty!!

It looks like the footnotes are just moved to the margin - leaving empty space, without the body text comes flush bottom again. I'm sure my publisher won't be amused about all this empty paper...

It tried to send a minimal example and changed just the text between \starttext and \stoptext.

Maybe there is something that could be changed in order to get the main text in flush bottom shape again AND keep the corresponding footnotes in the margin?

Steffen (Sorry Hans, but I tried for three hours now to understand and change the source without any chance...)

\showframe

\definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=]

\setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle]

\setuptexttexts [margin] [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] []

\starttext

\dorecurse{3}{\input knuth \par \input tufte \mynote{\input knuth \par}\par}

\stoptext

Hans Hagen wrote:

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Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

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does ConTeXt provide a way to place footnote (not margin notes!) per page - but not below the body text? A suitable place could be the margin. But there is no "\setupfootnotes[location=inmargin]" and somthing like "\inmargin{\footnote{}The footnote's text.}" doesn't flow.

Does anybody know a working solution?

Idris should know since i made him definable footnotes -)

\showframe

\definenote[mynote][way=bypage,location=text,width=\marginwidth,rule=,before=]

\setuplayout[backspace=5cm,margin=3cm,margindistance=.5cm,width=middle]

\setuptexttexts [margin] [\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}] []

\starttext

test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page test \mynote{one} test \mynote{two} \page

\stoptext

or a bit more modern (structured, readable, replacable):

\setuptexttexts [margin] [\setups{flushmynotes}] []

\startsetups flushmynotes

\vbox to \textheight{\placenotes[mynote]\vfill}

\stopsetups

So, it's up to you to feed this in the wiki -)

Hans