Hi Patrick Here are two traceroutes to contextgarden.net that might help/be informative, a route from Karlsruhe de is OK if slow, but a route starting in Gloucester uk on to the Star Internet (AS6656) backbone has 100% packet loss. Looking Glass at Karlsruhe Universitat traceroute to contextgarden.net (83.151.29.228), 50 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 i32-gw-int.ibds.uni-karlsruhe.de (141.3.44.254) 1.221 ms 0.891 ms 1.325 ms 2 192.168.1.190 (192.168.1.190) 0.877 ms 0.708 ms 0.651 ms 3 172.21.3.9 (172.21.3.9) 1.147 ms 21.107 ms 0.962 ms 4 Karlsruhe1.BelWue.de (129.143.166.129) 1.369 ms 1.319 ms 1.438 ms 5 Stuttgart1.belwue.de (129.143.1.7) 2.672 ms 3.269 ms 2.277 ms 6 Stuttgart2.belwue.de (129.143.1.34) 2.214 ms 2.136 ms 3.240 ms 7 Frankfurt1.belwue.de (129.143.1.26) 6.581 ms 6.222 ms 6.269 ms 8 gi-0-3-ffm2.noris.net (80.81.192.88) 6.997 ms 7.024 ms 6.817 ms 9 gi-0-3-600-rt1-nbg.core.noris.net (213.95.0.129) 11.165 ms 10.671 ms 10.151 ms 10 gi01-noris.dhk.nbg.metabone.net (62.128.13.194) 10.866 ms 10.920 ms 11.400 ms 11 eth2.core-1.dhk.nbg.v-bone.net (83.151.24.249) 17.887 ms 11.451 ms 11.728 ms 12 m24s02.vlinux.de (83.151.29.228) 10.519 ms 11.715 ms 11.993 ms Looking Glass at ook.co.uk traceroute to contextgarden.net (83.151.29.228): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets 1 hsrp-gw.gloucester.ook.co.uk (212.125.76.254) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 1.10/1.36/2.00 (0.298) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 2 fe4-1.bar007.star.net.uk (212.125.76.66) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 0.802/1.04/1.27 (0.179) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 3 ge-3-4.lon008.star.net.uk (212.125.69.145) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 4.34/4.94/5.66 (0.388) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 4 LINX.LON-1-eth110.uk.lambdanet.net (195.66.224.99) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 4.58/8.37/25.7 (7.76) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 5 FRA-2-pos700-2.de.lambdanet.net (82.197.136.42) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 21.5/21.9/22.2 (0.247) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 6 NUE-1-eth200.de.lambdanet.net (217.71.105.14) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 25.4/25.8/26.3 (0.338) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 7 lambdanet-upl.lambdanet.hetzner.de (213.133.96.233) 36 bytes to 212.125..76.237 25.5/25.9/26.2 (0.206) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 8 gi-3-1.RS86001.RZ3.hetzner.de (213.133.96.125) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 25.4/25.7/26.0 (0.218) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 9 gi-2-2.RS8K1.RZ2.hetzner.de (213.133.96.57) 36 bytes to 212.125.76.237 25.6/26.2/26.7 (0.367) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 10 ge-01.hetzner.dhk.nbg.metabone.net (213.239.239.54) 46 bytes to 212.125..76.237 25.5/25.9/26.6 (0.419) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 11 * * * * * 0/5 pkts (100% loss) 12 eth2.core-1.dhk.nbg.v-bone.net (83.151.24.249) 46 bytes to 212.125.76.237 25.8/26.3/26.7 (0.293) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) 13 m24s02.vlinux.de (83.151.29.228) 46 bytes to 212.125.76.237 25.7/26.0/26.5 (0.282) ms 6/6 pkts (0% loss) -- yours Julian Haworth portfolio site http://www.julianhaworth.net WIRE | Mental Health News on the Web http://www.machineanswering.me.uk/wire