Dear Hans and Taco, This may be of general interest to the Europeans (and indirectly relates to the \sh@ft email): I need the following: LATIN CAPITAL LETTER L WITH TILDE;004C 0303 LATIN SMALL LETTER L WITH TILDE;006C 0303 The proposal is still under consideration for lithuanian and not yet in unicode. In luatex can I make a definition such that such that the string U004C U0303 (l ̃) is always treated as l with tilde above, taking into account italics and without using \~l (which does not work in, eg, footnote)? Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/