Hans et al, Working hard. Reading manuals. I read in the texfont manual that: lucida $ texfont --listing --ve=yandy --co=lucida Should: "this switch will result in a list of metric files of the installed fonts." I get, to list the first few: lucida $ texfont --listing --ve=yandy --co=lucida TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFFONTS checking root : TEXMFLOCAL fontpath : /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/ afm/yandy/lucida lbc : LucidaCalligraphy-Italic lbd : LucidaBright-Demi lbdi : LucidaBright-DemiItalic lbdsc : LucidaBrightSmallcaps-Demi lbh : LucidaHandwriting-Italic lbi : LucidaBright-Italic lbki : LucidaCasual-Italic lbkr : LucidaCasual lbl : LucidaBlackletter lbma : LucidaNewMath-Arrows lbmad : LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi lbmatex : LucidaNewMath-Arrows However, for example, you can see that lbma is not there: lucida $ pwd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/vf/yandy/lucida lucida $ ls texnansi-lbc.vf texnansi-lbrsc.vf texnansi-lsb.vf texnansi-lbd.vf texnansi-lbsl.vf texnansi-lsbi.vf texnansi-lbdi.vf texnansi-lbtb.vf texnansi-lsd.vf texnansi-lbdsc.vf texnansi-lbtbo.vf texnansi-lsdi.vf texnansi-lbh.vf texnansi-lbto.vf texnansi-lsi.vf texnansi-lbi.vf texnansi-lbtr.vf texnansi-lsr.vf texnansi-lbki.vf texnansi-lfd.vf texnansi-lstb.vf texnansi-lbkr.vf texnansi-lfdi.vf texnansi-lstbo.vf texnansi-lbl.vf texnansi-lfi.vf texnansi-lsto.vf texnansi-lbr.vf texnansi-lfr.vf texnansi-lstr.vf This is because when I installed with: sudo texfont --ve=yandy --co=lucida --ma --in I got lots of skippings, all the math, such as: font identifier : LucidaNewMath-Arrows -> math -> skipping use supplied tfm : lbma font identifier : LucidaNewMath-Arrows-Demi -> math -> skipping use supplied tfm : lbmad Still struggling to figure out what to do about this. Am I interpreting the --listing switch of texfont incorrectly? Signed: Struggling in California. David