Hi, I probably didn't mention this yet but the way to deal with ligature and kerning prevention in lmts is: whatever\par {\nokerning whatever}\par efficient ff fi\par {\noligaturing efficient ff fi}\par {\nokerning\noligaturing efficient ff fi}\par {e{\noligaturing ffi}cient}\par because this feature can be used local and because it actually has more granularity than advertised, I added this in the next version {ef{\noleftligaturing f}icient ff fi}\par {ef{\norightligaturing f}icient ff fi}\par (so, specific commands for left/right control). Or course one can wonder how useful it is, but because tex is all about control ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------