Re: [NTG-context] Font embedding

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2012-02-28 um 21:23 schrieb Martin Schröder:

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2012/2/28 Honza Hejzl :

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PDF file must be version 1.3

Yellow pages. Now. Choose one that can handle PDF/X-4.

PDF 1.4 was released in 2001. If they need 1.3, their software is probably a decade old.

No, they just keep to standards they can handle. There’s not so much wrong about PDF/X-1 and -3. right. After all, many of tex user still use dvitops and pstopdf.

I guess the "full font embedding" is just a misunderstanding. The instructions Honza quoted didn’t say "full". yes, this is what I believe

I experienced a lot of printshops whose instructions were for office-type laymen and just utterly wrong for professionals*, e.g. to deliver single page pdfs or to convert all fonts to curves. Other printshops never learned anything in the last 20-30 years - they earned their insolvence.

*) or, say, people who know stuff - most *amateur* (in the meaning of the word) typographers are better than everyday professionals. or \input zapf

Honza, I guess you need only this information: ConTeXt embeds fonts very well and standards compliant. If it doesn’t, it’s an error that we can track (maybe missing or corrupt font on your system).

Right -- at least this is my almost 10 years experience of industrial printing with mkii and mkiv. The only obscure issue with fonts embedding is the fact that at least for pdf1.4 it was a "bad practice" (let's says so) to embed one of the 14 Postscript "standard" fonts Courier,Courier-Bold,Courier-Oblique,Courier-BoldOblique,Helvetica,Helvetica-Bold,Helvetica-Oblique,Helvetica-BoldOblique,Times-Roman,Times-Bold,Times-Italic,Times-BoldItalic,Symbol,ZapfDingbats (the Base-14 Fonts) but pdf/a-* which is pdf 1.4 based requires that all the font *must* be correctly embed, even one of the Base-14 fonts. So, a pdf1.4 with, let's say, only helvetica correctly embed, can be theoretically marked as "bad" (not wrong, just bad) if checked versus a generic 1.4 version compliant, but right (at least form the point of view of fonts) if checked as pdf/a-1 . But it's so dependant to the pdf-checker that we can say that if the last release of Acrobat say it's ok, than you can say that it's ok. (incidentally, that's why in this situation I use Nimbus whenever I can, to avoid such kind of noises). -- luigi