On 13-4-2010 8:07, Khaled Hosny wrote:
Apparently not, again for some reason I'd always the feeling that they are not interested in feedback (I also usually try to provide fixes with my "bug" reports, but I can't really do here).
If you'd met them in person you'd probably written your mails differently. They are quite open, very active in the tex community, spending a lot of time on tex things and deserve a bit more respect. (Actually this is one of the things I dislike about mailing, bloging, etc. .. criticizing people without knowing who one's dealing with and what one's intentions are.) The project started already quite some years ago and i dare to say the lm and gyre project the community would be in troubles. Also, these projects are among the few (user group sponsored projects) that actually had quite some outcome. We have had those type one fonts in different encodings for ages and in was a pain to support them consistently esp when mixing languages. This project could only succees because it was done by a few people the way it was done. I kno wthe community well enough by now to also know that a larger group would have failed (endless discussions for instance) and even this way it already had to cross some political tex font boundaries. In the tex community the most succesful projects are those done by small groups consisting of people who stay around long. The fonts that were used as starting point were part of tex live for many years and for some it's even unknown where the additional glyphs came from. Replacing the old fonts with new ones (type 1 and later otf) is done under tight control as it may not harm distributions and current workflows. Most of this info can be found in publications (and presentations) on the project. Ok, if one's not a member of a user group, one will not notice but that not the teams fault. The stages are quite clear: initial merge, cleanup (which can lead to removal), math, improve. We're currently between the second and third stage. Those sponsoring the project are quite convinced that the team can and will deliver given time. Criticism is ok, as is passing info and patches to the team, but one has to see things in (tex) perspective. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------