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Hello again,
>Oh come on, this is completely crap. The people at PRAGMA (i.e. Hans) >share ConTeXt, wich is the holy grail that PRAGMA is based on >(besides the knowledge). It is such a generous gift to the community. >Please think about if you write stuff like that.
I realize better that you do Hans contibutions to the Open Source community and I never complained about the sharing of ConTeXt, which is indeed the best typesetting system I have seen. You are taking my comment into a completely different context, pun not intended!
No, actually I am not. You wrote "People at Pragma are willing to show off but not willing to share code and teach by example..." Willing to show off -> that is right. The talks etc. are really impressive (but more than that). "but not willing to share code" -> this is, as you know, mostly wrong. How many thousands of lines do they share? How many lines do you share? "...and teach by example". There *are* a few examples online. Did you look at the magazines? Did you look at the pdftex manual? I just guess you did not find them. (Or know about.)
>There are already some styles in the ConTeXt wiki. And there are >styles that come with the distribution.
The discussion is not about styles, it is about examples and how-to.
Styles are examples. Did you have a look? And yes, howtos are missing. [...]
We are not talking about experience and or copy/paste, if you are assuming that I don't have the experience or that the guy that posted the initial message wants to copy and paste, again you are on the wrong track.
You were talking about reverse engeneering. What is wrong about making up your own style and publish it? You obviously lack experience (which is not ment negative) (or are too unwilling to do so) in style design with ConTeXt, or you would do the first step and publish *your* styles somewhere, together with sources. Then you will find out that publishing source code is not always trivial. So my conclusion is something like this: write down your questions you have and we can fill in the gap. As long as people are only complaining and whining, nothing will change. Constructive criticism is much better than the messages you sent. And if we continue this conversation: please point out which styles you would like to see available. There too many documents at PRAGMA, so we might talk about different items. Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net