Hi all, this code: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \defineitemgroup[subitems] \setupitemgroup[subitems][each][a,packed][left=(,stopper=)] \starttext \startitemize[n] \startitem Lorem ipsum \startsubitems \startitem dolor \stopitem \startitem sit \stopitem \startitem amet. \stopitem \stopsubitems \stopitem \stopitemize \stoptext %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% behaves differently if I change \startsubitems into \startitemize[a,packed][left=(,stopper=)]. Namely, the vertical space before (a) ... does not appear when using \startsubitems. Why is that so? When I want to put the vertical space before the first subitem by means of before={\blank[small]}, nothing happens. Also, is \startitem ... \stopitem really better than \item ...? (Apart from the case when I use the [random] option.) And finally: what is the difference between "right=)" and "stopper=)"? TIA, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Adam Mickiewicz University