Hi, the change from a while ago to get the symbols for bullet etc. from the text font when available leads to where unpleasant results for a few fonts. A good example for this are first level items where the symbol is too symbols in my opinion which looks even worse for smaller font sizes. While I can understand the change to use the text font for the symbols I miss a simple way to switch back to the math font for the symbols, e.g. \usesymbols[math]. \starttext \startitemize[packed] \item First item \item Second item \item Third item \stopitemize \startitemize[packed] \sym{\m{\bullet}} First item \sym{\m{\bullet}} Second item \sym{\m{\bullet}} Third item \stopitemize \blank Latin Modern: \symbol[bullet] \m{\symbol[bullet]} \setupbodyfont[pagella] TeX Gyre Pagella: \symbol[bullet] \m{\symbol[bullet]} \setupbodyfont[dejavu] DejaVu Serif: \symbol[bullet] \m{\symbol[bullet]} \stoptext Wolfgang