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Dear gang, I'm trying to setup a definition that uses a natural table and could use some guru help. Here is what I have so far: =============== \def\Glyphbox{% \setupframed[frame=off,align=middle,offfset=none] \framed{\cbox{ \bTABLE[align=middle] \bTR \bTD \gulistan#1 \fontchar{#2} \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD #1 \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD #3 \eTD \eTR \eTABLE }} } ============== Some issues: 1. '#' is probably active and being used in the internals, so of course I can't directly use it as an argument parameter. How do I work around it? 2. The '#1' at the end of '\gulistan' is meant to complete the name of a defined font, then that same parameter is used as a name in the next row. Am I doing this correctly? I.e., can I use an argument parameter to finish off a command like this? [Yes, my low level TeX is really quite rusty]. 3. Once this table is defined correctly it will be used in a larger table, e.g. ========== \bTABLE \bTR \bTD \Glyphbox{}{}{} \eTD \bTD \Glyphbox{}{}{} \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD \Glyphbox{}{}{} \eTD \bTD \Glyphbox{}{}{} \eTD \eTR \eTABLE ========== with arguments appropriately filled. Thanks in advance for any and all advice, and Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid Professor of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523