Hi, The previous mail was actually for the ntg board but let's summarize it .. - i was at the dante meeting: interesting (also socially) but less attendents than usual (45) ... a pattern that is seen with more user group meetings ... user groups meetings are important for discussing dev issues, distributions, tutorials, etc - mplib project ... this is a new activity (subproject) in the luatex project ... programming in the the luatex project is financed as part of the oriental tex project; the mp lib project has a budget of 12KEUR and Dante is funding half of it; other user groups will be asked for a contribution too ... of course any financing of such activities is welcome - there was also a presentation of the gyre project ... halfway this year we will have all 8 fonts of the first stage ... after that ... math - dante members will receive Hermann Zapfs new book (looks real nice) .. so if you're not a member ... bad luck - there was a nice and impressing talk by Richard Hirsh about mpost; will end up as article in user group journals; some great animations too (will probably on line at dante site) - so ... consider coming to user group meetings Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------