Re: [NTG-context] Issues using publications subsystem for non-bibliographic database

8 Dec 2018

      You can place references rendered as you need, not necessarily in one
single bibliography list, but they must be rendered somewhere,
otherwise numbering and cross-referencing is meaningless. In the case
of footnote references, each footnote contains a rendering (not a
citation) of a fragment of the list.

You are thinking too much in a standard frame, and I'm not sure what
you want to accomplish.

One "other use" case that I make is a catalog of hundreds of
mesophases. I "cite" them and their various properties throughout the
text, an my "list rendering" has become an index.

Alan

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 22:36:02 -0500
Rik Kabel  wrote:
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On 12/7/2018 18:01, Alan Braslau wrote:
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 17:19:35 -0500
Rik Kabel  wrote:
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As a followup, here is a close-to-minimal example which
demonstrates the failure when \placebtxrendering is omitted.  
It is not a failure. The whole intent is to place an appropriate
rendering that you can tailor to your specific needs. There is
little sense in a cross-reference (link) or reference number if
there is not sort of list.
Alan
That makes absolutely no sense. That means that an informal paper
that puts all references in footnotes and has no bibliography and
does not need cross-referencing or reference numbering cannot take
advantage of a bibliographic database. And in fact, that is the case
shown below. The footnotes appear only when the comment line is
uncommented.
(I also tried \nocite[*] together with
\placebtxrendering[method=none] and also with
\placebtxrendering[criterium=none] for the rendering, but that does
not help. It seems that the entries only display when something gets
added to the rendering list.)
\startbuffer[quotesources]
    @book{Schopenhauer1862v2,
       title       = {Parerga und Paralipomena},
       subtitle    = {Kleine Philosophische Schriften},
       publisher   = {A. W. Hahn},
       year        = {1862},
       volume      = {2},
       volumes     = {2},
       author      = {Arthur Schopenhauer},
       editor      = {Julius Frauenstädt},
       address     = {Berlin},
       language    = {german},
    }
    @book{SchopenhauerPayne2000,
       title       = {Parerga and Paralipomena},
       subtitle    = {Short Philosophical Essays},
       publisher   = {Oxford University Press Clarendon Press},
       address     = {New York and Oxford},
       year        = {2000},
       author      = {Arthur Schopenhauer},
       volumes     = {2},
       origyear    = {1974},
       origlanguage= {german},
       translator  = {Eric F. J. Payne},
    }
    \stopbuffer
\loadbtxdefinitionfile
       [apa]
    \usebtxdefinitions
       [apa]
    \usebtxdataset
       [quotesources.buffer]
\starttext
As Artie said:\footnote{\placecitation[Schopenhauer1862v2]}
Es wäre gut Bücher kaufen, wenn man die Zeit, sie zu
       lesen, mitkaufen könnte, aber man verweschelt meistens
       den Ankauf der Bücher mit dem Aneignen ihres Inhalts.
Payne translates this
as:\footnote{\cite[entry][SchopenhauerPayne2000]}
Buying books would be a good thing if one could also
       buy the time to read them in: but as a rule the
       purchase of books is mistaken for the appropriation
       of their contents.
%  \placebtxrendering [method=dataset]
    \stoptext
I understood §5.4 of the manual to mean that rendering definitions 
(created by \definebtxrendering and related setups) do not have an 
effect on \placecitation (and \cite[field][tag]) commands. Rereading
it, I wonder if the meaning is supposed to be more than that, and to
cover this situation?
Surely this can be changed!