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On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:18:45 +0200
"Mojca Miklavec"
On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hans Hagen wrote:
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
btw,
pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote: pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that one might need some additional files.)
pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant (patterns to start with -)
There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience).
(In case of XeTeX, it's slightly more that a single line to be typed :)
If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra? If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's up with that?
xetex.ini looks like that:
\catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \catcode`\^=7 \catcode`\@=11
\input unicode-letters
\let\s@vef@nt=\font ... some stuff here \lowercase{\def\sk@pf@nt\preloaded=#1^^A{\endgroup}}
\input etex.src
% restore the \font command and undefine other stuff \catcode`\@=11 \let\font=\s@vef@nt ... some more stuff here
\dump \endinput
So one additionally needs: - (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself - unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed)
this is not possible with the 0.997dev version because it presets charclasses (a new feature in XeTeX) for a few CJK characters
- etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?)
this is also used for the pdftex format in w32tex
- tex-text.tec (which was missing until now but needs to be added anyway) - hmmm ... no idea about what is needed for hyphenation (but I guess that patterns from ConTeXt could be used as well)
I will test once I have the rest, but it would be really handy to have the three plain formats (pdfTeX, XeTeX and mpost available; plus luatex if needed).
On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of binaries, so I can make that request :-)
;) 3-times hurray for Taco :)
Mojca
Wolfgang