Hi all, The "current stable" MkIV, the MkIV on the wiki, and the MkIV in TeX Live are quite different things. MkIV 2011.005.18 -- result of first-setup.sh --current MkIV 2011.10.008 -- version on the wiki MkIV 2012.005.29 -- version in TeX Live 2012, AFAICT (Mojca?) 1. Why not declare the version in TeX Live to be stable? I know Mojca puts some work into making it as bug-free as possible. 2. Perhaps have the MkIV on the wiki track the MkIV in TeXlive? We can show off reasonably-recent features, it looks more up-to-date, it's a nice clear answer to "should we update already?", and it ensures that we update to reasonably bug-free versions. 3. Is there a list of past stable versions somewhere? I can't find one, and without it the ability to go to a specific stable version with `sh ./first-setup.sh --context=date` seems a bit useless. (Can't really imagine a use in general, though.) 4. (Less important.) context.mkiv defines \contextversion as e.g. `2012.08.11 14:11`, but \contextversionnumber in mult-ini.mkiv still prepends a zero to the month or day. (It checks whether 08 < 10, which is true even if the leading zero is present.) This causes the extra zeros you saw in the version numbers above. Can this be changed without breakage ensuing? I expect that nobody depends on it over the more direct \contextversion. (People that do use \contextversionnumber have a problem anyway, because the version strings it produces in October-December will always turn out 'earlier/older' than the ones produced in January-September, regardless of year.) Cheers, Sietse