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Hi, how do you usually calcultate your layouts? For example in this example, the third value for height is not really helpful as there will never be a complete line : ================= \setupbodyfont[10pt] \definepapersize[test][width=140mm,height=208mm] \setuppapersize[test][test] \setuplayout[reset] \setuplayout[backspace=17mm, topspace=19mm, header=0mm, footerdistance=4mm, footer=5mm, width=105mm, %height=174mm, height=178mm, %height=177mm, % does not suffice for a complete line rightmargin=0mm, leftmargin=0mm, ] \startsetups[mypenalties] \setdefaultpenalties \setpenalties\clubpenalties{2}{0} \setpenalties\widowpenalties{2}{0} \setpenalties\displaywidowpenalties{2}{0} \stopsetups \setuplayout[setups=mypenalties] %\showframe \showmakeup %\showsetups \starttext \dorecurse{5}{\input knuth\par} \stoptext ================= How do you do this usually? Any best-practices? Hints? Trial and error seems to work ok, but maybe there is a more efficient method... Best Denis