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4 Sep
2003
4 Sep
'03
8:34 p.m.
% interface=en output=pdftex \starttext \showmakeup \showstruts \setuphead[section][textcommand=\framed,before=] \hbox{\framed[width=5cm,height=5cm,align={middle,high},offset=none]%,strut=no] {\section{Hello} why is there so much space above the word hello??}} \stoptext Hello Patrick, this one works for me (strut=no is an alternative). You should give 'Visual Debugging in TeX' (art-visi.pdf) a try. It's pure gold to get control of the hole layout ;) Greetings, Peter