Dear Hans, It is very interesting example. Thank you for a new method. Best regards, Dalyoung
\def\determinednoflines#1% {\localcontrolled{\determinenoflines{#1}}\noflines}
\startbuffer \input tufte \stopbuffer
\fillinrules[n=\determinednoflines{\getbuffer}, width=fit]{first} \fillinrules[n=\determinednoflines{\getbuffer}, width=broad]{first} \fillinrules[n=\determinednoflines{\getbuffer}, width=3cm]{first} \fillinrules[n=\determinednoflines{\getbuffer}, width=3cm,distance=.5em,separator=:]{first} \fillinrules[n=\determinednoflines{\getbuffer}]{first}{last}
i'll make a better hider later
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