Re: [NTG-context] Spacing in \unit - SOLVED

Hi Gavin Thank four your effort. I found out, that the following definition of a new unit, i called it SI, results also in a correct spaceing in the math environment: \defineunit[SI][alternative=text] It seems, that the option alternative=text solves the problem with no spaces between value and unit in the math environment. Maybe this can be used to solve it easier in the code. I will have a look at phys-dim to solve it directly, if I find the time. Best regards Oli

Am 12.10.2022 um 23:54 schrieb Gavin via ntg-context - ntg-context at ntg.nl :

Hi Max, Alan, Bruce, Hans, et.al

I solved my four issues with \unit spacing. In the process, I prevented unwanted line breaks and removed an overzealous backspace before division symbols. Below is a MWE that shows all of these issues, as well as pictures of the result with the unmodified phys-dim.mkxl and with my modified phys-dim.mkxl. The final result is exactly what I wanted.

If anyone wants my changes, either for their own use or to improve the distributed phys-dim.mkxl, I’m happy to share.

Thanks for all of your comments! Gavin

MWE:

\setuppapersize[A5]

\starttext

The \type{\unit} command in text produces \unit{1.23e5 kg m^2/s^2}.

Inline math \type{$\unit$} produces $\unit{1.23e5 kg m^2/s^2}$.

Display math produces \startformula \unit{1.23e5 kg m^2/s^2} + \unit{8.64e5 newton m} = \unit{987,000 joule} \stopformula

Line breaking in math:

{\hsize=0pt $G = \unit{6.6743e-11 m3 kg-1 s-2}$}

\blank Line breaking in text:

{\hsize=0pt \unit{6.6743e-11 m3 kg-1 s-2}}

\stoptext

Output with unmodified phys-dim.mkxl:

Output with my modified phys-dim.mkxl:

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On Oct 10, 2022, at 12:15 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:

Hi Alan,

...

I would very strongly argue that the space between the number and the following units be UNBREAKABLE. Perhaps a thin space (preference), but most certainly non-breakable.

Similarly around the times in scientific notation.

I further cannot imagine that a line break be acceptable around a \cdot in composite units.

This can possibly lead to overfill and underfill, something that I find *infinitely* more acceptable then breaking numbers and units.

Yes, I agree completely here.

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I do not know or use the \units command. Maybe it uses unbreakable spaces, maybe not. I would never use it unless it could be configured to only use nonbreakable spaces.

The current behaviour doesn't break the unit from the number, but it does split the scientific notation.

This test file:

\starttext \hsize=0pt Math: $G = \unit{6.6743e-11 m3 kg-1 s-2}$

\hsize=0pt Text: \unit{6.6743e-11 m3 kg-1 s-2} \stoptext

gives:

Math: 𝐺= 6.6743× 10–11m3⋅kg–1⋅s–2 Text: 6.6743 × 10−11 m3⋅kg−1⋅s−2

which isn't great. In my opinion, the \unit command should be typeset in an \hbox (or similar) since I can't think of any circumstances where breaking it would be reasonable.

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