Re: [NTG-context] Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works

Hi Hraban, Thanks for the hint (and the proper fontfamily setup), I have forced reload ten times now from various accounts; the issue persists unfortunately. This might confirm Taco‘s notion that there is some bug lmtx. I’m running macOS Catalina too, but as it worked with the standalone of Dec/Jan three days ago, I suspect it is not because of a new feature in the OS, but rather an old feature in mtxrun or elsewhere having disappeared.

On 24. Apr 2020, at 11:35, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

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Am 24.04.2020 um 11:13 schrieb Benjamin Buchmuller :

Although this specific issue might have been solved meanwhile by the helpful suggestions of Wolfang, Thomas and others, I would like to point out that I have recently also encountered an odd behaviour of the mtxrun fontloader in the standalone, in which not all typefaces are available/properly identified.

(I’m sorry to hijack this thread if this is unrelated.)

Basically, when I load “Helvetica Neue”, I get instead of “regular/normal” always “light/italic”.

I have switched to heros for the meantime, but potentially there is some bug behind this. (My documents with the version from Dec/Jan worked fine.)

I recite my example from Wed:

ConTeXt ver: 2020.01.30 14:13 MKIV beta fmt: 2020.4.22 (LuaTeX 1.11.1)

and I’m running now into troubles with system font indexing:

mtxrun --script fonts --reload

locates fonts in macOS directories appropriately (*.afm fonts placed in .../tex/texmf-fonts are not found, but at the moment I don’t care too much), however it resolves only to a single font variant for *.ttc instead of all variants:

mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=helvetica

helvetica helvetica helveticalightoblique /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 6 helveticalightoblique helvetica helveticalightoblique /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 6 helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 10 helveticaneuethinitalic helveticaneue helveticaneuethinitalic /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 14

If the subfont is not listed, ConTeXt/mtxrun couldn’t find it and won’t find it regardless of your setup.

Try mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force maybe even twice or thrice and check again. (Unfortunately this is not reliable.)

I get the full list:

identifier familyname fontname filename subfont instances

helvetica helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1 helveticaneueblack helveticaneue helveticaneuecondensedblack /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 10 helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextrabold helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 10 helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextralight helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacethin /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 8 helveticaneuedeskinterfacemedium helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediump4 /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 5 helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalic helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalicp4 /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 6 helveticaneuedeskinterfacenormal helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceregular /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 1 helveticaneueextralight helveticaneue helveticaneuethin /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 13 helveticaneuenormal helveticaneue helveticaneue /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 1 helveticaneueregular helveticaneue helveticaneue /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 1 helveticanormal helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1 helveticaregular helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1

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As a consequence, when I run

\definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue] \setupbodyfont[mainface, 12pt, sans]

I get the light oblique variant instead of the regular one. I have tried to fix this via a

\definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue][tf=style:normal]

tf=helveticaregular should work.

Best, Hraban