Dear gang, This has bugged me for years but I never said anything since the workaround is so easy. OTOH I am working on something I'd like to share with others and an official solution would be better: \starttext \input knuth \startquotation \input knuth \stopquotation \input knuth \stoptext I. \start-\stopquotation surrounds the block quote in double-quotes marks. I don't know about other European languages but in English this is redundant; I've hardly ever seen block quotes use dbl-quote marks. We at least need a setup option to turn this off. II. There should be some default whitespace between the block quote and the surrounding text, just as \start-stopitemize has. Or at least this should be configurable in the setups. If these two are already there (not in the manual) then please let us know how to set this up. Otherwise could you add configuration options for this? FYI: Here is what I use =========== \definestartstop [quote] [before={\startnarrower[2*left,2*right]\blank[big]\noindenting}, after={\stopnarrower\blank[big]}] =========== Best wishes Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief International Journal of Shi`i Studies Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/