Re: [NTG-context] Different authorconversion for citation alternatives and bibliographic entries

Chicago-style footnote user here, I would be interested in helping with testing. Jelle On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:50 PM Alan Braslau wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:40:06 +0000 wrote:

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Alan Braslau Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2021 21:11 An: mailing list for ConTeXt users ; Maier, Denis Christian (UB) Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] Different authorconversion for citation alternatives and bibliographic entries

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ntg-context Im Auftrag von Ágoston Volcz Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2021 10:20 An:ntg-context@ntg.nl Betreff: [NTG-context] Different authorconversion for citation alternatives and bibliographic entries

Hi there,

My university has special requirements for the theses I submit. Layout, fonts etc. are pretty straightforward to set up in ConTeXt. The one part I'm struggling with is citations / bibliography. I have to use the german citation style with footnotes. Essentially the first time I cite something, I have to put the full entry in a footnote. From the second time on, I only have to put a shorter entry in the footnotes. Is this first citation vs other citations thing currently possible with ConTeXt? I was thinking that there was no proper support for note style citations in ConTeXt? Has that changed? I remember reading the

On 30/06/21 12:59, denis.maier@unibe.ch wrote: phrase "We may add additional citation styles if there demand and clear requirements exist." So what's the current state of affairs here?

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Denis

Indeed (one can always use \footnote{} but that might not be a good substitute for a proper footnote citation style.

I do not use footnote citations as a general style (and personally dislike it, finding them somewhat distracting and sloppy). Yet these are popular in many fields and there is no reason not to support it.

So what would be needed to make add real support for it?

First of all, come to a consensus on a clear style guide to base this on, so as not to run after ambiguous and perhaps contradictory specifications. This would be distinct from the APA (author-year) model as well as from the minimalist APS (numbered) style. Could this perhaps be the Chicago style? (does that have a footnote specification?)

Secondly, identify users who would be willing to spend time testing and giving feedback.

Thirdly, motivate Hans and myself to spend time on this (implementing or helping implement), for neither of us use the footnote style.

So it can be done, and such a model is presently missing.

Alan

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