Hello, The following code \setuplabeltext[test=] test is \doifemptyelse{\labeltext{test}}{empty}{not empty} doesn't work as intended for the reasons that I approximately understand (not exactly, but I understand that there might be a lot of weird stuff returned when I ask for labeltext). However I have no idea how to check if text is empty or not. As an exception :) :) :), MKIV hints should be highly appreciated and enough for this particular application. Mojca PS: the extended example looks approximately as follows: \def\document#1#2{ \setuplabeltext[name={{#1}},company={{#2}}] \startstandardmakeup \setups{content} \setups{decoration} \stopstandardmakeup } \startsetups content This is for \labeltext{name}% \doifemptyelse{\labeltext{company}}{.}{, working for \labeltext{company}.} \stopsetups I have no problem changing the complete code and I can already find a workaround by defining some new "if" inside definition of \document, but I'm still slightly curious to know how to test for existence of a label. The sources contain definelabels("setuplabeltext", data.texts, true) and it is not too clear to me how to decrypt the rest with too much pain.