Re: [NTG-context] 10+ reasons why I still use MKII

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 01:46:28PM -0500, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2010 10:00:01 -0500, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 13-5-2010 4:32, Khaled Hosny wrote:

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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:16:12PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

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On 13-5-2010 3:42, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

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\startyoumayignorethis The only thing that really bothers me are so much different vertical differences which show up in almost every document I ever write. MKIV consistently takes more vertical space, so no matter what document I try to recompile, it always ends up with more pages (and some weird page breaks) when processing it with MKIV.

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the lineheight relates to the ex height and as in mkiv we don't have the tfm limitations (those 16 values of ht dp) we have slightly different spacing

Something I find very annoying is variable interline spacing, if I've, for example, a line with some Arabic words vocalized I get some times too much white space above it that it almost looks like an empty line. It makes the page look like crap. Is there a way to force fixed interline spacing?

Can you give an example?

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turn turn grid on .. but even then, we need some nice heuristic for determing the right ht/dp ratio for arabic (can be set up)

I have some nice texts that illustrate a standard balance, but I'd like to see what Khaled has in mind exactly before I comment further...

Nothing special, I always expect interline space to be fixed, I don't know if TeX always make interline spacing variable, but this wasn't an issue with English text. However, with Arabic, Tashkil marks seems to always cause a noticeable extra whitespace above the line. See the uneven distribution of vertical whitespace in this example (it can be even worse than this in reality): \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[Arabic Typesetting][features=arabic] \starttext \pardir TRT\textdir TRT \dorecurse{10}{\dorecurse{20}{نص عربي } نَصُّ مُشكَّل \dorecurse{20}{نص عربي}} \stoptext Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer