Hans, Since we have some leverage with backward compatibility in MkIV, can we make \setuppapersize (slightly) more intuitive. Normally, one would expect \setuppapersize[A5] to be equivalent to \setuppapersize[A5][A5] but currently it is equivalent to \setuppapersize[A5][A4] This is a bit confusing, and means that we always have to specify the printpaper size; even if it is equal to paper size. Can we modify the definition of \dodefinepapersize to change this behavior? \def\dodefinepapersize[#1][#2][#3]% {\ifsecondargument \doifsomething{#1} % to be sure {\doifassignmentelse{#2} {\getparameters [\??pp#1] % geen \c!scale, scheelt hash ruimte [\c!width=\@@ppwidth,\c!height=\@@ppheight,\c!offset=\@@ppoffset,#2]% %AM: Added these two lines \setvalue{\??pp:1:#1}{#1}% \setvalue{\??pp:2:#1}{#1}}% {\setvalue{\??pp:1:#1}{#2}% \setvalue{\??pp:2:#1}{#3}}}% (*) see below \else \getparameters[\??pp][#1]% \setuppapersize % hm. this will freeze ! \fi} Perhaps, in line (*), we should also check if #3 is something, otherwise set ??p:2:#1 to #2: \doifsomethingelse{#3} {\setvalue\??pp:2:#1}{#3}} {\setvalue\??pp:2:#1}{#2}} What do you think? Aditya