Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographies in mkiv - announcement and WARNING!

On 3/11/2015 9:50 AM, Robert Blackstone wrote:

On 9 Mar 2015, at 21:28 , Alan BRASLAU mailto:alan.braslau@cea.fr>

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ANNOUNCEMENT

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We introduced into the core of MKIV a dataset subsystem, not necessarily limited to the generation of bibliographic lists. This new subsystem has been part of the distribution for some time and an early first draft of its documentation had been made available.

After putting the new system to heavy use in a real, bibliographic-intensive book project, and after much fighting back-and-forth over specifications and design choices, the upcoming beta standalone distribution will finally contain this completely revamped subsystem. Hans and Alan (also with the help of Thomas and Luigi).

Hi Alan and Hans, Maybe it is a bit early to ask questions already about this new bibliography tool. But it really interests me and I do need it.

First of all, I compiled the ME and added a number of my own .bib entries and they all came out well. It looks as if I can just continue use my existing BibTex database in the new system and continue using BibDesk for new items, which is a very good thing. No need to generate .bbl’s separately. (Though I hope that ConTeXt will keep the possibility to process .bbl’s as before.)

you can load a bbl file and it will be converted into the internal format and can then be used, assuming the bbl is sane

My questions are: 1 The ME contains no setup, no indication of a particular Bibliography style. What comes out in the ME looks like apa. Are there style files connected with this system? If so are they accessible for tweaking (I need some rather uncommon Bibliography style, sort of apa-like but different in many details)?

You need to load apa explicitly but there are some simple defaults for article, book and a few more. When you roll out you rown you can do two things (will b eexplained in manual): - copy the 'apa' files to 'foo' files - replace all apa by foo - tweak - use foo or - define a new one foo - that defaults to apa - and only implment changes (with foo setups)

2 The \cite-command turns out just some number in square brackets, no info on what is cited. Is that a bug?

- it's the default cite rendering

3 In the old system I used \dcite[key] for footnotes but \dcite is not recognized now. Is there another way?

we are unware of such footnote commands but we do provide mathods to construct registers and such upto Alan to explain more Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------