Mojca Miklavec wrote:
I don't know if we're talking about the same problem, but what I hate about natural tables as well (although I use them all the time) is very bad spacing: horizontal offset is too narrow and vertical offset is too big (well, it also depends on content, but in general "\starttable/tabulate" looks much better regarding spacing).
If I want smaller table I usually do \startbuffer[name] .... table ... \stopbuffer \externalfigure[\jobname-name.tmp][scale=...]
but that is not *the* solution. Tables still look "bad" that way. The main problem is that there is no special parameter for "horizonal offset" and "vertical offset" for \framed, otherwise the user could modify that at least to some extent. I have no idea how "usual tables" create "nice spacing".
the ofsset is around all edged (maybe some day i will add more offsets but only when my machine is 10 times faster) the vertical spacing is just as in normal text and is detemined by the strutheight / depth and lineheight; of course you can change that but it may make your docs sensitive for unequal spacing tabulate uses the line parameters as well and the other table mechanism as (imo) bad spacing in paragraphs anyway anyhow, you can make 'm as ugly as you want \starttext \setupcolors[state=start] \startsetups mojca \setupinterlinespace[.8] \leftskip2em \rightskip2em \stopsetups \setupTABLE [setups=mojca] \setupTABLE [y] [first][background=color,backgroundcolor=blue,frame=off,bottomframe=on,topframe=on,framecolor=white] \setupTABLE [first][first][backgroundcorner=2,corner=10,frame=on] \setupTABLE [last] [first][backgroundcorner=4,corner=12,frame=on] \setupTABLE [row] [each] [background=color,backgroundcolor=blue,frame=on,framecolor=white] \setupTABLE [first][2] [corner=8] \setupTABLE [last] [2] [corner=5] \setupTABLE [first][last] [corner=7] \setupTABLE [last] [last] [corner=6] \startTEXpage \bTABLE[frame=off,align=middle] \bTR \bTD one \eTD \bTD two \eTD \bTD three \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD first \eTD \bTD second \eTD \bTD third \eTD \eTR \bTR \bTD alpha \eTD \bTD beta \eTD \bTD gamma \eTD \eTR \eTABLE \stopTEXpage \stoptext the corner trickery is in the latest beta (made that today) - don't ask why -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------