Hi, A numexpr either ends with a \relax or is delimited by () So, the following works as expected: \number\numexpr(1) test but ... the following gives an error message: \number\numexpr(1) /test so, the expr parser looks beyond the ) which is rather strange; bug or feature? (those expr are behaving a bit strange anyway) Hans PS. for those using etex primitives, recently i ran into a bug in \lastnodetype (resulting in incorrect return values or funny side effects), this is already corrected (by fabrice/olaf) in the yet to come versions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE/POD/CTS Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- information: http://www.pragma-ade.com/roadmap.pdf documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf -------------------------------------------------------------------------