Taco Hoekwater a écrit :

There is a consistency problem with the web2c extension that handles filename quoting, yes. I have removed the quotes recently after it became obvious that the quoting mechanism in web2c does not know how to deal with directory separators in font file names properly.

Ok. Isn't it possible to fix web2c quoting mechanism rather than removing the quotes? (Perhaps more a question for texk...)

I'll think about this some more, but just going back to whatever web2c was doing just because that was what web2c was doing, may not such a good solution. Perhaps we could backport the braced filename support to the rest of web2c ...

Why not, I have no opinion about that, as long a the solution you choose doesn't break popular macro packages, such as LaTeX. Thanks, Manuel.

Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote:

Taco Hoekwater a écrit :

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I'll think about this some more, but just going back to whatever web2c was doing just because that was what web2c was doing, may not such a good solution. Perhaps we could backport the braced filename support to the rest of web2c ...

By the way, if you backport braced filename support to web2c (which is imo a good idea), will old-style quoting (like '\input "foo bar".ext') still be supported?

Yes (there are all sorts of backward compatibility disasters otherwise).

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:45:50AM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Perhaps we could backport the braced filename support to the rest of web2c ...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:31:04AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:

luatex also supports {some name}

According to the documentation braced filenames are supported for fonts, see 2.7.11 "Font syntax": \font\myfont = {cmr10} But neither \input or \openin supports this syntax: \catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \def\msg#{\immediate\write16} \openin0={abc def.tex} \ifeof0 \msg{EOF}\else\msg{OK}\fi \input{abc def.tex} \end File 'abc def.tex' exists, but it isn't found (or other files without spaces in their name). Result from 'luatex -ini': ! Too many }'s. l.6 \openin0={abc def.tex} ? EOF ! I can't find file `{abc'. l.14 \input{abc def.tex} Please type another input file name: Miss I something? Generally braced file names would be a nice feature. Yours sincerely Heiko

Hans Hagen a écrit :

of course you can just overload jobname if it suits you

\let\oldjobname\jobname \def\jobname{"\oldjobname"}

I guess we'll have to add this in the ini files, but this means that the behaviour of the primitives start to be different from ConTeXt to Plain and LaTeX and I'm not sure it's the best way to go... is it the only solution (of course modifying Plain or LaTeX is not an option...)? -- Elie

Hans Hagen a écrit :

also, since for instance context had some macro names in use that later showed up as primitives in engines so "primitive names" already behave different anyway

Ok. The only questions remaining are about details: We have to override \jobname for LaTeX, this is not an option, but what about Plain? As I never use it, I don't know if it's common to have \input\jobname.myextention... Also, how should the old \jobname be renamed? Something like luajobname? Thank you, -- Elie

Hans Hagen a écrit :

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\input\jobname.myextention...

well, in luatex that's ok then

Hum, unless I'm mistaken that's not ok because while compiling 'foo bar.tex', you get \input foo bar.tex which is likely to complain about a missing foo.tex file.

but if pdftex adds "" you'd get \input "some name with spaces".myextention which is strange anyway

Strange but it "works". Anyway, the best solution indeed would be to have support for \input{\jobname.ext} and adapt existing macro packages. Manuel.