Hi all,

Just to close the issue on the server down : I thought because of the scheduled electrical work in the building that it was the reason, so I did not worry much.
However, the actual reason was that the certificate expired on 15/12 :-)
The server being accessible from the internal network, the guys in charge did not notice the problem at first.

Best wishes,


Le mar. 21 déc. 2021 à 15:28, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> a écrit :
Hi Reinhard,

> these overworked volunteers and underpaid apprentices do a pretty good
> job and deserve appreciation, not only because they do all this in

Agreed, and I have been doing this for long time.

> their spare time.  What they do is amazingly reliable and IMO it's not
> a big problem if a server is down for maintenance for a few hours.

Nobody says something about afew hours. Fail-over or redundancy is not
to be expected in these suroundings, and down-time is normal.
But we are going into the second week now AFAIR.

> I'm glad that at least dante.de and tug.org are not maintained by
> so-called "professional teams".  That would be disastrous.

I don't think that it would be disastrous, only more complicated to make
changes. The advantage of "home-maintained" servers are that we can do
changes quickly, easily, and without a lot of red-tape. That is great,
I agree.

But there are also advantages on the other side, it is not all



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