Hey all. A couple enco-uc fixes to be confirmed: \definecharacter threequarter {\uchar0{190}} % was threequarters, oops \definecharacter ordmasculine {\uchar0{186}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter ordfeminine {\uchar0{170}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter percent {\uchar0{37}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter textunderscore {\uchar0{95}} % wasn't defined %D Not sure, because it can be a chore to create yet another font: %\definecharacter trademark {\uchar{33}{34}} % wasn't defined %D This isn't defined in many fonts, but it should be consistent: \definecharacter textminus {\uchar{32}{18}} In other news, would a TeX'n'Unicode encoding interest anyone? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Hey all.
A couple enco-uc fixes to be confirmed: \definecharacter threequarter {\uchar0{190}} % was threequarters, oops \definecharacter ordmasculine {\uchar0{186}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter ordfeminine {\uchar0{170}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter percent {\uchar0{37}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter textunderscore {\uchar0{95}} % wasn't defined
%D Not sure, because it can be a chore to create yet another font:
%\definecharacter trademark {\uchar{33}{34}} % wasn't defined
%D This isn't defined in many fonts, but it should be consistent: \definecharacter textminus {\uchar{32}{18}}
In other news, would a TeX'n'Unicode encoding interest anyone?
depends on what you mean; one thing i've been discussing with jacko is that we need an as-many-chars-as-possible encoding; for instance, symbols like \copyright are used so seldon that they can be symbols and its slot can be used for something more useuful Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:48:13 +0200:
In other news, would a TeX'n'Unicode encoding interest anyone?
depends on what you mean;
one thing i've been discussing with jacko is that we need an as-many-chars-as-possible encoding; for instance, symbols like \copyright are used so seldon that they can be symbols and its slot can be used for something more useuful
Yeah, I remember you mentioning it earlier. At the time, I was headed in the opposite direction, looking for sparser encodings so LCDF typetools (for .otf's) could insert alternates or ligatures into the empty slots. That's what the basic idea is behind the TeX'n'Unicode: like texnansx, get rid of the duplicates in the encoding. Unlike texnansx, it keeps the glyphs to make it compatible with Unicode's 00-vector. Anyway, I could take a look at the character-dense encoding, but it'll help to know what your priorities are: 1) Do you want combining accents kept in? 2) Priority languages after western european? Central european, I'd guess, but in what order? 3) The concept sounds sort of like EC encoding (in its relationship with TS1), but with less of the backwards-compatibility "cruft". Should I take that as a starting point, or work with texnansi? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
Yeah, I remember you mentioning it earlier. At the time, I was headed in the opposite direction, looking for sparser encodings so LCDF typetools (for .otf's) could insert alternates or ligatures into the empty slots. That's what the basic idea is behind the TeX'n'Unicode: like texnansx, get rid of the duplicates in the encoding. Unlike texnansx, it keeps the glyphs to make it compatible with Unicode's 00-vector.
indeed
Anyway, I could take a look at the character-dense encoding, but it'll help to know what your priorities are: 1) Do you want combining accents kept in?
no
2) Priority languages after western european? Central european, I'd guess, but in what order?
combined, take a look at teh qx encoding, it already goes in that direction
3) The concept sounds sort of like EC encoding (in its relationship with TS1), but with less of the backwards-compatibility "cruft". Should I take that as a starting point, or work with texnansi?
qx Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------
Hans Hagen said this at Tue, 26 Apr 2005 02:11:04 +0200:
combined, take a look at teh qx encoding, it already goes in that direction
3) The concept sounds sort of like EC encoding (in its relationship with TS1), but with less of the backwards-compatibility "cruft". Should I take that as a starting point, or work with texnansi?
qx
Okay, looking at it, I'm thinking the following things: - cut out the greek - keep the f-ligatures - keep the punctuation that's part of "typical" text flow: Quotes, Guillemets, exclam, question (up + down), hyphen, en/em dash, comma, period, parens & square brackets, forward slash. (Or, if you're serious about it, cut them all out...) - cut out the rest: math-like, commercial, currency, typographic markers Any preference on the layout? Like QX or rearranged to have glyphs in common with texnansi? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Adam Lindsay wrote:
A couple enco-uc fixes to be confirmed: \definecharacter threequarter {\uchar0{190}} % was threequarters, oops \definecharacter ordmasculine {\uchar0{186}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter ordfeminine {\uchar0{170}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter percent {\uchar0{37}} % wasn't defined \definecharacter textunderscore {\uchar0{95}} % wasn't defined
\definecharacter textminus {\uchar{32}{18}}
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