On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:11:53 -0600 "Idris Samawi Hamid" wrote:

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:29:56 -0600, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

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Hi,

would it make sense to have, in addtion to e.g. \section a start..stop pair?

such as

\startsection{my section name}

\stopsection

with something like \let\startsection\section \let\stopsection\relax

This way the text would be slightly more structured.

For now:

===================== \def\startchapter[#1]#2% {\getparameters[Chapter][#1]\chapter{#2}} \def\stopchapter{}

\def\startsection[#1]#2% {\getparameters[Section][#1]\section{#2}} \def\stopsection{}

\def\startsubsection[#1]#2% {\getparameters[Subsection][#1]\subsection{#2}} \def\stopsubsection{}

Hi, you can avoid all these definition by changing the \definisection commands in core-sec. YOu nedd only a few extra lines at the end from the \dododefinehead macro. Just add: \setvalue{\e!start#1}##1[##2]% {\getparameters[\??se\??se#1][\c!ref=,\c!title=,##2]% \getvalue{#1}[\getvalue{\??se\??se#1\c!ref}]{\getvalue{\??se\?? se#1\c!title}}}% \setvalue{\e!stop#1}{\relax} for Tacos version. \startsetion[ref=...,title=...] ... \stopsection or add: \setvalue{\e!start#1}{\getvalue{#1}}% \setvalue{\e!stop#1}{\relax} for Patricks version. \startsection[reference]{title} ... \stopsection

\def\startfootnote[#1]#2% {\getparameters[Footnote][#1]\footnote\bgroup#2} \def\stopfootnote{\egroup{}} =====================

\def\startfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote {\footnote[#1]{#2}} We need something in core-not that creates start/stop commands for everything defined with \definenote. It is not as easy as extending the section commands.

All based on a note from Taco; I don't really know how it works...

The footnote one needs a % at the end of the preceding line, don't know how to gobble it:

text.% \startfootnote[] note. \stopfootnote{} text

Further: I now use fake start-stops in my environments/preambles. In conjunction with an editor that can handle TeX-syntax folding, they area really good organizing tools. So I have a file startstops.tex with totally naive things like

======================= \let\startENV=\relax \let\stopENV=\relax \let\startLET=\relax \let\stopLET=\relax \let\startFONTS=\relax \let\stopFONTS=\relax \let\startLISTS=\relax \let\stopLISTS=\relax \let\startPAPER=\relax \let\stopPAPER=\relax \let\startTITLE=\relax \let\stopTITLE=\relax \let\startLAYOUT=\relax \let\stopLAYOUT=\relax \let\startBIBLIO=\relax \let\stopBIBLIO=\relax \let\startALIASES=\relax \let\stopALIASES=\relax \let\startSTRUCTURE=\relax \let\stopSTRUCTURE=\relax \let\startSTARTSTOPS=\relax \let\stopSTARTSTOPS=\relax \let\startDESCRIPTIONS=\relax \let\stopDESCRIPTIONS=\relax \let\startINTERACTIONS=\relax \let\stopINTERACTIONS=\relax =======================

Syntax-folding makes things soooo much easier and efficient.

Best Idris

Gruß Wolfgang

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:45:21 -0600 "Idris Samawi Hamid" wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the wonderful guidance! See below:

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 07:34:59 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

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Just add:

\setvalue{\e!start#1}##1[##2]% {\getparameters[\??se\??se#1][\c!ref=,\c!title=,##2]% \getvalue{#1}[\getvalue{\??se\??se#1\c!ref}]{\getvalue{\??se\?? se#1\c!title}}}% \setvalue{\e!stop#1}{\relax}

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\startsetion[ref=...,title=...] ... \stopsection

for Tacos version.

I did a \unprotect-\protect macro with just the \dododefinehead macro.

============= \starttext

\startchapter[ref=,title=Chapter]{Test}

text

\stopchapter

\stoptext =============

which gives the error

============= ! Parameters must be numbered consecutively. <to be read again> ## l.133 \setvalue{\e!start#1}## 1[##2]%

Hi Idris, you have to make the change in core-sec.tex, id is not possible to redefine them within a local file, because the section commands are when you make the format files.

? =============

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or add:

\setvalue{\e!start#1}{\getvalue{#1}}% \setvalue{\e!stop#1}{\relax}

for Patricks version.

\startsection[reference]{title} ... \stopsection

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\def\startfootnote[#1]#2% {\getparameters[Footnote][#1]\footnote\bgroup#2} \def\stopfootnote{\egroup{}} =====================

\def\startfootnote[#1]#2\stopfootnote {\footnote[#1]{#2}}

Wow, I did not know that you could define two commands with one \def (TeXBook, p. 219)

Not realy two commands, only a delimiter that tells TeX to read everything from \startfoonote till \stopfootnote, you can use it also as prevent eating the following space, e.g., \def\TEX/{\TEX} Text \TEX/ text \bye

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We need something in core-not that creates start/stop commands for everything defined with \definenote. It is not as easy as extending the section commands.

In the above definition the square brackets [] are mandatory even if the argument is empty, viz

\startfootnote[] text \stopfootnote

Is there a way to make it optional, as with \footnote itself?

I will send you a patched core-sec and core-not offlist, because they are to big for the list.

Thank you again, Wolfgang!

Best Idris

Wolfgang

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Another interesting way is to use start-stop sections is as specified by rfc2629 [1]: \startsection is nestable, so that you can have

\startsection {first section}

\startsection {first subsection}

\stopsection

\startsection {second subsection}

\stopsection

\stopsection

which makes it easy to move things around, promote demote section levels, etc.

That would be really, really nice! Patrick -- ConTeXt wiki and more: http://contextgarden.net