On 8/27/2021 1:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hi,

I’ll be happy to play around with extending the register code, assuming that is ok with Hans and that not someone else is also working on this?

Sure. At some point I'll adapt registers (structure in general) a bit more to lmtx features (I currently kind of go stepwise through groups of files, also in the process of checking luametatex stuff) so in the meantime you can play with new register stuff because that doesn't interfere much I guess and you probably don't care if I then add some to that (maybe wolfgang also has some pending ideas) and we have Rik to test all of it. What i normally do in such a case is copy the existing file to: strc-reg-new.mkxk and in context.mkxl: \doifelsefileexists{strc-reg-new.mkxl} {\input{strc-reg-new.mkxl}} {\input{strc-reg.mkxl}} That way it doesn't interfere with the existing code. Then when all is ok I eventually merge and double check. (I can add that if needed.) Hans

Taco

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On 8/26/2021 03:26, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

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Hi Rik,

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On 26 Aug 2021, at 03:14, Rik Kabel via ntg-context wrote:

List,

I am trying to create an index with both "see" and "see also" cross-reference entries.[1] At this point, ConTeXt provides basic support for "see" entries via the \seeREGISTER command (it does not properly support references to sub-entries) and it provides no support at all for "see also" entries.

Can somebody suggest a way to generate these entries? Perhaps a way of inserting entries into the index before it is formatted, in the manner of \writetolist or \writebetweenlist? (MkII has \writetoregister, but that did not carry forward and I do not know if it would have helped here.) Since strc-reg.mkiv starts with a number of ’todo’ comments, I think your best bet is to create an actual functional example along with an explanation of what you want the typeset result to look like in the cases where it is not doing what you want.

Generally, explicit examples / test files are the best way to get replies to questions (either by Hans or anyone else).

The following produces what I am looking for, and a bit more. Page 3 of the output shows what I would like to see, page 4 is the generated index. I don't really need the "see under" and "see also under" variants, but they would be nice to have. I am indifferent to having stops before "see also"s. I would like to be able to turn checking on or off, so that generic directives (in the example, see also specific breeds) will not generate an error, while the Ford Prefect example will generate an error.

   \defineprocessor[also][color=blue]    \defineprocessor[under][color=green]    \defineprocessor[alsounder][color=orange]    \define\seealsoindex\seeindex    \define\seealsounderindex\seeindex    \define\seeunderindex\seeindex    \setupinteraction [state=start]    \setupregister    [index][balance=no,check=no]

%% seeindex entries may start on the same line as their head entry    \seeindex         {dog breeds+Wiener dog}{dog breeds+Dachshund} %%  The next example should not work, %%    since there is no main entry /Adams, Douglas/    \seeindex         {Prefect, Ford}{Adams, Douglas}

%%  When referring to a subentry, the target must be a subentry, %%    but should display as if a main entry. The next example %%    should point to the /Adams+Douglas/ subentry, but it %%    should be formatted as if it were /Adams, Douglas/    \seeindex         {Dent, Arthur}{Adams+Douglas}

%% The following two work as expected    \seeindex         {Matilda effect}{obliteration}    \seeindex         {Marut, Ret}{Traven, B.}

%% seealso should be placed after as a subentry after real page references %% seealso should have an appropriate label (default English /see also/)    \seealsoindex     {pseudepigraphy}{also->obliteration}    \seealsoindex     {dog breeds}{also->breeding programs}    \seealsoindex     {dog breeds}{also->specific breeds} %% seealsounder is like seealso except that it refers to a main entry    \seealsounderindex{Coton de Tulear}{alsounder->dog breeds} %% seeunder also is like seealso except that it refers to a main entry    \seeunderindex    {Weimaraner}{under->dog breeds}    \starttext      Stuff      \index{obliteration}      \index{Adams+Douglas}\index{Adams+John}      \index{Beagle}      \index{dog breeds+Beagle}      \index{dog breeds+Coton de Tulear}      \index{dog breeds+Dachshund}      \index{dog breeds+Weimaraner}    \page      More stuff      \index{Adams+John Quincy}      \index{misquotation}      \index{pseudepigraphy}      \index{Traven, B.}      \index{Beagle}      \index{Coton de Tulear}      \index{breeding programs}    \page \definedescription[Index][headstyle=bold,alternative=top,inbetween=]    \startIndex{a}      Adams\par      \quad \reference[AdamsDouglas]{Adams, Douglas}Douglas\quad 1\par      \quad John\quad 1\par      \quad John Quincy\quad 2\par    \stopIndex    \startIndex{b}      Beagle\quad 1, 2\par      \reference[breedingprograms]{breeding programs}breeding programs\quad 2    \stopIndex    \startIndex{c}      Coton de Tulear\quad 2.\par      \quad {\em See also under} \in[dogbreeds]    \stopIndex    \startIndex{d}      \reference[DentArthur]{Dent, Arthur}Dent, Arthur {\em see} \in[AdamsDouglas]\par      \reference[dogbreeds]{dog breeds}dog breeds\par      \quad \reference[dbBeagle]{dog breeds, Beagle}Beagle\quad 1\par      \quad \reference[dbCoton]{dog breeds, Coton}Coton de Tulear\quad 1\par      \quad \reference[dbDachshund]{dog breeds, Dachshund}Dachshund\quad 1\par      \quad \reference[dbWeimaraner]{dog breeds, Weimaraner}Weimaraner\quad 1\par      \quad Wiener dog\quad {\em see} \in[dbDachshund]\par      \quad{\em See also} \in[breedingprograms] {\em and specific breeds}    \stopIndex    \startIndex{m}      Marut, Ret\quad {\em see} \in[TravenB]\par      Matilda effect\quad {\em see} \in[obliteration]\par      \reference[misquotation]{misquotation}misquotation\quad 2    \stopIndex    \startIndex{o}      \reference[obliteration]{obliteration}obliteration\quad 1\par      \quad{\em See also} \in[misquotation] {\em and} \in[pseudepigraphy]    \stopIndex    \startIndex{p}      Prefect, Ford\quad {\em see Adams, Douglas}\par \reference[pseudepigraphy]{pseudepigraphy}pseudepigraphy\quad 2\par      \quad {\em See also} \in[obliteration]    \stopIndex    \startIndex{t}      \reference[TravenB]{Traven, B.}Traven, B.\quad 2    \stopIndex    \startIndex{w}      Weimaraner\quad {\em see under} \in[dogbreeds]    \stopIndex    \page    \placeindex    \stoptext

-- Rik

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