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Hi Hans, There have been a few questions on TeX.SX asking essentially for a frame around a float that covers both the caption and the content. 1. https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/25180/adding-a-frame-and-background-... 2. https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/457412/context-place-rules-above-and... I have provided a hacky solutions to both questions (the internals changed quite a bit between the two questions), but as I was playing around with the code, I thought that the simplest solution will be to add a `before` and an `after` key to `\setupcaptions`: \def\strc_floats_build_box {\global\setbox\floatbox\vbox % pack ? probably not {\strc_floats_set_local_hsize \forgetall \ifconditional\c_floats_store_minimal_package \strc_floats_build_box_separate_make \else % \let\floatcaptionarrangement\s!default \let\floatcaptionarrangement\v!bottom % for Alan \processcommacommand[\floatcaptionparameter\c!location]\strc_floats_build_box_step \floatcaptionparameter\c!before %AM: Added \ifcsname\??floatbuilder\floatcaptionarrangement\endcsname \lastnamedcs \else \strc_floats_build_box_default \fi \floatcaptionparameter\c!after %AM: Added \fi}} A simple usage example is the following: \setupexternalfigures[location={local,global,default}] \setupcaption [ before={\startframedtext[widht=fit, background=color, backgroundcolor=gray, frame=off]}, after=\stopframedtext, ] \starttext \section{A figure with rules} \startplacefigure[location={left,high},title={A dutch cow}] \externalfigure[cow] \stopplacefigure \input knuth \startplacefigure[title={\input zapf \relax}] \externalfigure[cow] \stopplacefigure \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth \endgraf} \stoptext Does it make sense to add this or something similar? Thanks, Aditya