Hi, This encoding mess ... somehow i got the feeling that we should start shipping proper tfm files, i.e. texnansi ec qx char (adam's new one) ecx (mojcs's fixed ec) I can probably convince te polish font guys and we need a similar named set (generated of copied) for the abotu 15 free fonts on tex live. There is no point is keeping in tune with old stuff and latex-needs-it-this-way-so-we-cannot-fix-it situation. It's taking too much time. (Comparable with the patterns mess, i now just ship them). In the end we can set up a project that maintains these sets. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------