# [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

Hans Hagen pragma at wxs.nl
Wed Aug 1 14:24:12 CEST 2007

```Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>> Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
>>> I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
>>> wouldn't do it ...
>
>> sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box;
>
> Makes sense.
>
>> streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that
>> kind of stuff
>
> You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
> extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
> 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
> choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
> thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
> complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
> Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
> more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
> would have been a useful addition.

this will become configurable in luatex

> (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
> luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
> that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
> without a trace :P)

well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -)

also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff)

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